In case you haven’t heard, Octugrandpa Ed Doud, father of Nadya Suleman has taped an interview with Oprah Winfrey that is slated to air on Tuesday.

Doud calls the actions of his unemployed daughter and her doctor “absolutely irresponsible.”

“You know what? She needs help. I say to everybody now — people, we do need help,” Doud tells O. “Do not punish my daughter for what she had done and do not punish the babies, because they were given by God.”