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	<title>Comments on: Hayden Panettiere Lesbian Storyline On &#8220;Heroes&#8221; (Claire Bennet Gay)</title>
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		<title>By: Nemo</title>
		<link>http://www.popcrunch.com/hayden-panettiere-lesbian-storyline-on-heroes-claire-bennet-gay/comment-page-1/#comment-105086</link>
		<dc:creator>Nemo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 08:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Christian_Fan (James)

Existing doesn&#039;t count as shoving our opinions down your throat.  Wanting to be recognized as a valid member of society doesn&#039;t count as shoving our opinions down your throat.  Wanting to see relationships we personally have the ability to connect with doesn&#039;t count as shoving our opinions down your throat.  Wanting to see a gay/lesbian relationship in a mature context that lasts for more than a single make-out/threesome scene does not count as shoving our opinions down your throat.  Wanting to not be marginalized or written out of the script because a small group of people who isolate themselves from anyone that contradicts their personal view of morality does not count as shoving our opinions down your throat.

But telling people that they&#039;re entire existence doesn&#039;t merit a single storyline that probably won&#039;t outlast half a season of Heroes because people like you are horrified by it?  Well.  I wonder what you call that. 

@ All the Claire/Sylar fans
As you can see, she&#039;s more likely to fall for a woman than a psychopathic serial killer who also happens to be struggling with the mind of the man he murdered. And you disgust me for thinking she would.

@ that guy who wanted her to end up with Peter.
Ew.

And as far as this plot-line being out of left-field.  It isn&#039;t.  Let&#039;s not forget, Claire hasn&#039;t stated one way or the other if she actually wants to be with Gretchen.  There is an interest and an obvious attraction, but any lesbian can tell you that doesn&#039;t always lead to happy endings.  If it is, the writers are taking their time to develop a romance. If not, it&#039;ll end like a lot of college lesbian relationships.  Why don&#039;t we wait and see how it turns out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Christian_Fan (James)</p>
<p>Existing doesn&#8217;t count as shoving our opinions down your throat.  Wanting to be recognized as a valid member of society doesn&#8217;t count as shoving our opinions down your throat.  Wanting to see relationships we personally have the ability to connect with doesn&#8217;t count as shoving our opinions down your throat.  Wanting to see a gay/lesbian relationship in a mature context that lasts for more than a single make-out/threesome scene does not count as shoving our opinions down your throat.  Wanting to not be marginalized or written out of the script because a small group of people who isolate themselves from anyone that contradicts their personal view of morality does not count as shoving our opinions down your throat.</p>
<p>But telling people that they&#8217;re entire existence doesn&#8217;t merit a single storyline that probably won&#8217;t outlast half a season of Heroes because people like you are horrified by it?  Well.  I wonder what you call that. </p>
<p>@ All the Claire/Sylar fans<br />
As you can see, she&#8217;s more likely to fall for a woman than a psychopathic serial killer who also happens to be struggling with the mind of the man he murdered. And you disgust me for thinking she would.</p>
<p>@ that guy who wanted her to end up with Peter.<br />
Ew.</p>
<p>And as far as this plot-line being out of left-field.  It isn&#8217;t.  Let&#8217;s not forget, Claire hasn&#8217;t stated one way or the other if she actually wants to be with Gretchen.  There is an interest and an obvious attraction, but any lesbian can tell you that doesn&#8217;t always lead to happy endings.  If it is, the writers are taking their time to develop a romance. If not, it&#8217;ll end like a lot of college lesbian relationships.  Why don&#8217;t we wait and see how it turns out.</p>
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		<title>By: Christian_fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christian_fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why??? Those of you in the gay/lesbian community have the right to your &#039;open minded&#039; opinion but as soon as anyone disagrees with you they must be &#039;closed minded.&#039; I am so sick and tired of this new thought process and how it is infiltrating every aspect of society. 

Here it is - we ALL get to form our own opinions as individuals. So why am I to be ashamed of my opinion? I do not dislike the people of the gay/lesbian community. I do however disagree with their lifestyle. Under that personal opinion I do not surround myself with those who are gay/lesbian. I also chose by my own free will to not watch shows, movies, or other media which &#039;normalizes&#039; those relationships. So I get a label &#039;closed minded&#039; or &#039;homophobe&#039; hmmm this is of concern because I fear next I could be labeled for my opinion of where I CHOOSE to live. Am I a &#039;suburbiphobe&#039;? I also don&#039;t like cable, uh-oh I am one those &#039;cableiphobes.&#039; I have know some people who don&#039;t like dogs, you know the type &#039;canineiphobes&#039;.  Sorry that probably gets my point across and I know some of those phobias are real although I did not look for the proper terms. 

So can we all please just stop with the &#039;you must be a homophobe&#039; crap. We have opinions have opinions  that differ and that is our right as individual humans. Personaly I think life in general on this earth would suck if we thought the same things. 

Anyhow just take minute and think about why those of us who disagree should be labeled as the &#039;closed minded&#039;. 

Thanks for listening.
James</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why??? Those of you in the gay/lesbian community have the right to your &#8216;open minded&#8217; opinion but as soon as anyone disagrees with you they must be &#8216;closed minded.&#8217; I am so sick and tired of this new thought process and how it is infiltrating every aspect of society. </p>
<p>Here it is &#8211; we ALL get to form our own opinions as individuals. So why am I to be ashamed of my opinion? I do not dislike the people of the gay/lesbian community. I do however disagree with their lifestyle. Under that personal opinion I do not surround myself with those who are gay/lesbian. I also chose by my own free will to not watch shows, movies, or other media which &#8216;normalizes&#8217; those relationships. So I get a label &#8216;closed minded&#8217; or &#8216;homophobe&#8217; hmmm this is of concern because I fear next I could be labeled for my opinion of where I CHOOSE to live. Am I a &#8217;suburbiphobe&#8217;? I also don&#8217;t like cable, uh-oh I am one those &#8216;cableiphobes.&#8217; I have know some people who don&#8217;t like dogs, you know the type &#8216;canineiphobes&#8217;.  Sorry that probably gets my point across and I know some of those phobias are real although I did not look for the proper terms. </p>
<p>So can we all please just stop with the &#8216;you must be a homophobe&#8217; crap. We have opinions have opinions  that differ and that is our right as individual humans. Personaly I think life in general on this earth would suck if we thought the same things. </p>
<p>Anyhow just take minute and think about why those of us who disagree should be labeled as the &#8216;closed minded&#8217;. </p>
<p>Thanks for listening.<br />
James</p>
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		<title>By: Derek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems like a desperate move for ratings considering magical switches don&#039;t turn on in peoples&#039; heads where they decide they are lesbian one day. 

This is no reason to stop watching it of course. It&#039;s still an amazing series. The story never specified that it would be people saving other peoples&#039; lives, though some of them do. 

I personally do not care if she&#039;s lesbian, but it&#039;s just not logical for her to magically turn lesbian after being interest in boys and only boys her whole life. The story could have stayed the same without her friend kissing Claire, therefore I call this a desperate move for ratings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems like a desperate move for ratings considering magical switches don&#8217;t turn on in peoples&#8217; heads where they decide they are lesbian one day. </p>
<p>This is no reason to stop watching it of course. It&#8217;s still an amazing series. The story never specified that it would be people saving other peoples&#8217; lives, though some of them do. </p>
<p>I personally do not care if she&#8217;s lesbian, but it&#8217;s just not logical for her to magically turn lesbian after being interest in boys and only boys her whole life. The story could have stayed the same without her friend kissing Claire, therefore I call this a desperate move for ratings.</p>
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		<title>By: FTW</title>
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		<dc:creator>FTW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 07:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Homophobes, grow up. I think it&#039;ll be interesting, I can&#039;t wait to see it! Everything I was going to say has already been said, so I&#039;ll leave it as that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Homophobes, grow up. I think it&#8217;ll be interesting, I can&#8217;t wait to see it! Everything I was going to say has already been said, so I&#8217;ll leave it as that.</p>
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		<title>By: MNW</title>
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		<dc:creator>MNW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 03:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why does it even matter if Claire has a same-sex relationship? Obviously most of the viewers are not getting the point of the show-to accept those who are different! How about you try being a little less homophobic and a little more open-minded? If you&#039;re going to stop watching one of your favorites shows just because you disagree with a minor plot line, you must not have been too dedicated to it before. You don&#039;t stop watching your favorite series just because suddenly there&#039;s a small possibility of a bisexual main character. It&#039;s laughable that so many Americans even think that this is a big deal. I thought we were all about change and being more open-minded from now on. Or have we forgotten about all of that now? Are we reverting back to our self-destructive and conservative ways?

Attention: Heroes is not going to be ruined as a result of a bisexual/gay plotline! It will still be the same amazing show-if not better! I look more forward to watching the series after Monday&#039;s episode!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does it even matter if Claire has a same-sex relationship? Obviously most of the viewers are not getting the point of the show-to accept those who are different! How about you try being a little less homophobic and a little more open-minded? If you&#8217;re going to stop watching one of your favorites shows just because you disagree with a minor plot line, you must not have been too dedicated to it before. You don&#8217;t stop watching your favorite series just because suddenly there&#8217;s a small possibility of a bisexual main character. It&#8217;s laughable that so many Americans even think that this is a big deal. I thought we were all about change and being more open-minded from now on. Or have we forgotten about all of that now? Are we reverting back to our self-destructive and conservative ways?</p>
<p>Attention: Heroes is not going to be ruined as a result of a bisexual/gay plotline! It will still be the same amazing show-if not better! I look more forward to watching the series after Monday&#8217;s episode!</p>
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		<title>By: Jae</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;On the topic of having Claire being gay, no way man. I will quit watching. I am fine homosexuality, but why is it necessary to have a gay person in every show? Take the coolest character in greys anatomy, Tores and turn her gay? There are tons of shows that feel they need to appeal to the gay community, and thats fine, but I think this is overdone. For me Im done if Claire goes gay.&quot;

....Wow...you know what&#039;s overdone? Straight romances. Because guess what? They&#039;ve been done on every show, book and video game since god knows how long. You guys look at this as a gay plotline and such. How about you look at it as a romance? Because quite frankly...that&#039;s what it is. Why is it that people never have a fuss about gays until it&#039;s in their entertainment? We see straight characters all the time, do we complain that there should be less of them? No, we say nothing and hope that there will at some point be a gay character on the show. We get 1 gay character if we&#039;re lucky and then people complain that the shows being ruined. Guess what? There are gay people in real life, I bet every one of you knows a gay person. Do you look at them and say, &quot;You&#039;re ruining my life by being there.&quot; No, you don&#039;t. Unless you are a completely uncouth being that is. Anyways, the fact is, we&#039;re people too. But when it comes to being shown as real people, we get flack. Put yourselves in our shoes. What if we were getting upset about Claire suddenly being straight? You&#039;d feel cornered, bullied. I understand that you guys are upset because this is out of left field but really...are you going to take away us being recognized? And hell! This is only a bisexual character and you&#039;re freaking out. She&#039;s not even gay! You guys might say you&#039;re not homophobic but you know what?

You sure do seem like it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;On the topic of having Claire being gay, no way man. I will quit watching. I am fine homosexuality, but why is it necessary to have a gay person in every show? Take the coolest character in greys anatomy, Tores and turn her gay? There are tons of shows that feel they need to appeal to the gay community, and thats fine, but I think this is overdone. For me Im done if Claire goes gay.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;.Wow&#8230;you know what&#8217;s overdone? Straight romances. Because guess what? They&#8217;ve been done on every show, book and video game since god knows how long. You guys look at this as a gay plotline and such. How about you look at it as a romance? Because quite frankly&#8230;that&#8217;s what it is. Why is it that people never have a fuss about gays until it&#8217;s in their entertainment? We see straight characters all the time, do we complain that there should be less of them? No, we say nothing and hope that there will at some point be a gay character on the show. We get 1 gay character if we&#8217;re lucky and then people complain that the shows being ruined. Guess what? There are gay people in real life, I bet every one of you knows a gay person. Do you look at them and say, &#8220;You&#8217;re ruining my life by being there.&#8221; No, you don&#8217;t. Unless you are a completely uncouth being that is. Anyways, the fact is, we&#8217;re people too. But when it comes to being shown as real people, we get flack. Put yourselves in our shoes. What if we were getting upset about Claire suddenly being straight? You&#8217;d feel cornered, bullied. I understand that you guys are upset because this is out of left field but really&#8230;are you going to take away us being recognized? And hell! This is only a bisexual character and you&#8217;re freaking out. She&#8217;s not even gay! You guys might say you&#8217;re not homophobic but you know what?</p>
<p>You sure do seem like it.</p>
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		<title>By: CasualViewer</title>
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		<dc:creator>CasualViewer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>J,
While I do agree with some of what you say, I will say that you should look at the messier side of society. 
Morals are more of a subjective matter. This series only began being interesting to with the recent episodes and I don&#039;t mind Claire being gay. I seriously don&#039;t care. I was surprised at first because Claire struck me as the good girl, straight up, good daughter type person but my jaw dropped at the kiss. It was awesome and that&#039;s what I like about this show. If people make a show according to what the mass audience feels is right, then what&#039;s keeping the show from being too predictable. I&#039;d rather the show not listen to these drama queens up top.
On another note..
When you say &quot;free&quot; society, you also have to count social dynamics. Unless the entire society&#039;s physical lives change, things outside the box will generally be rejected.
Lets imagine a future generation of a diversified human race. They will still need commonality in order to communicate. This commonality will be considered as the standard and any deviations or anything that seems to conflict with it, will still generally be rejected.
It is because of this commonality that homosexuality is being rejected.
Take a homosexual in a group of straights. The common relationships and social interactions change among the group. The implications of the homosexuality within the group itself changes the whole interaction of either male or female. 
One cannot simply relate to them in the same way as others of the same gender.
For men, this creates an especially bad friction. Since men are more than likely to be angry or physical in their rejection and things that &quot;insult&quot; a man is when the existence of someone undermines their self-image of what a man is.

Society&#039;s mores are very specific. People either agree or disagree on any definition of free but ultimately, these definitions are controlled by such commonalities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J,<br />
While I do agree with some of what you say, I will say that you should look at the messier side of society.<br />
Morals are more of a subjective matter. This series only began being interesting to with the recent episodes and I don&#8217;t mind Claire being gay. I seriously don&#8217;t care. I was surprised at first because Claire struck me as the good girl, straight up, good daughter type person but my jaw dropped at the kiss. It was awesome and that&#8217;s what I like about this show. If people make a show according to what the mass audience feels is right, then what&#8217;s keeping the show from being too predictable. I&#8217;d rather the show not listen to these drama queens up top.<br />
On another note..<br />
When you say &#8220;free&#8221; society, you also have to count social dynamics. Unless the entire society&#8217;s physical lives change, things outside the box will generally be rejected.<br />
Lets imagine a future generation of a diversified human race. They will still need commonality in order to communicate. This commonality will be considered as the standard and any deviations or anything that seems to conflict with it, will still generally be rejected.<br />
It is because of this commonality that homosexuality is being rejected.<br />
Take a homosexual in a group of straights. The common relationships and social interactions change among the group. The implications of the homosexuality within the group itself changes the whole interaction of either male or female.<br />
One cannot simply relate to them in the same way as others of the same gender.<br />
For men, this creates an especially bad friction. Since men are more than likely to be angry or physical in their rejection and things that &#8220;insult&#8221; a man is when the existence of someone undermines their self-image of what a man is.</p>
<p>Society&#8217;s mores are very specific. People either agree or disagree on any definition of free but ultimately, these definitions are controlled by such commonalities.</p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
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		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 00:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So if Claire has a lesbian relationship with Gretchen, that&#039;s &quot;soap opera&quot;, but if she gets with Sylar that&#039;s not?

And on the moral side of things- how laughable that you moralists would rather see Claire have a relationship with a depraved serial murderer and adulterer (taking over Parkman&#039;s body to sleep with his wife), than with a sweet girl who genuinely seems to care about her. Gee, how terrible.

The sad thing I was thinking to myself as I noticed this storyline developing basically as soon as these two met, was that it also felt rather contrived to me- and the reason why it felt that way is because homosexuality is such a big &quot;issue&quot; that addressing the topic starts to seem like a way for a show to manufacture controversy- and it only seems this way because of the hypocritical mores of our supposedly &quot;free&quot; society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So if Claire has a lesbian relationship with Gretchen, that&#8217;s &#8220;soap opera&#8221;, but if she gets with Sylar that&#8217;s not?</p>
<p>And on the moral side of things- how laughable that you moralists would rather see Claire have a relationship with a depraved serial murderer and adulterer (taking over Parkman&#8217;s body to sleep with his wife), than with a sweet girl who genuinely seems to care about her. Gee, how terrible.</p>
<p>The sad thing I was thinking to myself as I noticed this storyline developing basically as soon as these two met, was that it also felt rather contrived to me- and the reason why it felt that way is because homosexuality is such a big &#8220;issue&#8221; that addressing the topic starts to seem like a way for a show to manufacture controversy- and it only seems this way because of the hypocritical mores of our supposedly &#8220;free&#8221; society.</p>
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		<title>By: Anythingwill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anythingwill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 04:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not about being homophobic, it&#039;s about it turning too much into a soap opera!!!
Unless they can think of a REALLY good way of using this to advance the plot then it&#039;s just pointless and stupid. As pointed out in someone&#039;s comment, it will probably be the all too typical story where they get really close and then get split apart by some outside influence. Probably some part where one of them has to make a &quot;hard decision&quot; between the world and their partner...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not about being homophobic, it&#8217;s about it turning too much into a soap opera!!!<br />
Unless they can think of a REALLY good way of using this to advance the plot then it&#8217;s just pointless and stupid. As pointed out in someone&#8217;s comment, it will probably be the all too typical story where they get really close and then get split apart by some outside influence. Probably some part where one of them has to make a &#8220;hard decision&#8221; between the world and their partner&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: heroesfan2</title>
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		<dc:creator>heroesfan2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 04:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the topic of having Claire being gay, no way man. I will quit watching. I am fine homosexuality, but why is it necessary to have a gay person in every show? Take the coolest character in greys anatomy, Tores and turn her gay? There are tons of shows that feel they need to appeal to the gay community, and thats fine, but I think this is overdone. For me Im done if Claire goes gay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the topic of having Claire being gay, no way man. I will quit watching. I am fine homosexuality, but why is it necessary to have a gay person in every show? Take the coolest character in greys anatomy, Tores and turn her gay? There are tons of shows that feel they need to appeal to the gay community, and thats fine, but I think this is overdone. For me Im done if Claire goes gay.</p>
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