Pascal is stepping down as co-chairman of Sony following the infiltration of hacker on the computer network of Sony Pictures Entertainment. Pascal attended the Women in the World conference Wednesday in San Francisco, where she spoke to journalist Tina Brown about how she wasn’t sure she belonged at the event.
Recode quoted Pascal as saying, “All the women here are doing incredible things in this world — all I did was get fired.”
“Everyone knows everything about me,” “What am I doing here?” Brown tried to respond to Pascals statement by saying, “None of us can imagine …” but was cut off in mid-sentence by Pascal who said, “No, you cannot.” According to the official statements regarding her departure from Sony it has been implied that it was a mutual parting of ways and not a firing.
When Brown asked Pascal how she had felt when she realized her emails would be made public, she responded, “I ran this company, and I had to worry about everybody who was really scared … People were really scared … But nagging in the back of my mind, I kept calling [IT] and being like, ‘They don’t have our emails, tell me they don’t have our emails,’ ” she said. “But then they did. That was a bad moment. And you know what you write in emails.”
Pascal said being called a racist was a “horrible” experience and “strangely freeing,” since she couldn’t do anything about it.
Angelina Jolie and Amy Pascal in 2011
Pascal emails had also been made public; Scott Rudin and Pascal had make racial jokes about what movies President Obama would like, along with many insults towards her showbiz colleagues. According to Pascal, this is kind of his how the industry operates. “Everybody understood because we all live in this weird thing called Hollywood,” she said. “If we all actually were nice, it wouldn’t work.” In another leaked email Rudin called Angelina Jolie a “minimally talented spoiled brat”.
Pascal said she has learned that “You should always say exactly what you think directly to people all the time, which this is hard to do with celebrities, as they are ‘bottomless pits of need.’”